Scryptcloud.com - 100% Scam - Details inside...
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This is such a shame, and is terrible for all those involved. It makes it even more difficult to build a solid business when scams like this are happening.
As a side note, I enquired how much he is selling the domain for, and 3BTC seemed a little high given the reputation its getting…
What I dont understand is the move to a .eu domain - it all seems a little pointless if he has no intention of fulfilling his promise, but then I saw a post from FTCLover asking how to install an operating system in december, so perhaps not the best person suited to building mining rigs.
As a side note, no matter how protected he thinks he is, he is still subject to the laws of his land. So even if he *thinks* there is nothing that can be done, fraud is fraud (irrespective of the currency) and he can be tried against EU law. If you have written confirmation that he has invested the coins in a KnC then I would urge those involved to look into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embezzlement , whilst I am not a solicitor I am pretty sure this is what this comes under and is covered by EU law, punishable by prison sentence.
I have a UK solicitor that we use for our business would be happy to send off an email asking for some advice if anyone would like me too.
[quote]Embezzlement is the act of dishonestly withholding assets for the purpose of conversion (theft) of such assets by one or more individuals to whom such assets have been entrusted, to be held and/or used for other purposes.[/quote]
Even if Bitcoins etc are not classed as ‘real’ currency, there is no way you could deny they are a ‘real’ asset, especially if he used them to *invest* something. -
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Do we know total amount of FTC/BTC he took for Scrypt/ASIC?
[/quote]there is a list on the scriptcloud technical problem thread
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As an addendum, any of you that are posting in the scriptcloud technical problem thread, your TXIDs and how much BTC was sent and the like, it would behoove you, even though I’m sure it’s painful, to look up that BTC trading value at the time and day you sent it.
This way we can get a fiat amount to work with in case whoever represents you speaks with law enforcement.
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Also, if you have confirmation of the above why not contact KnC - I’m sure they would be interested to know a product was purchased with illicit funds?
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[quote]"In the eyes of the law and in business I have done nothing wrong, you took a huge risk when investing in my project and now the project has failed and the money is all gone, there is no recourse for you.
You can talk all you like, it won’t change a thing
This is the last you will hear from me."[/quote]
Usually I try to avoid regretting things.
However, I deeply regret offering this chap encouragement and kind words.
At 21 you’re supposed to become an adult. He sounds like a cocky a$$ clown.
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[quote name=“scruffters” post=“54648” timestamp=“1390581320”]
[quote]"In the eyes of the law and in business I have done nothing wrong, you took a huge risk when investing in my project and now the project has failed and the money is all gone, there is no recourse for you.You can talk all you like, it won’t change a thing
This is the last you will hear from me."[/quote]
Usually I try to avoid regretting things.
However, I deeply regret offering this chap encouragement and kind words.
At 21 you’re supposed to become an adult. He sounds like a cocky a$$ clown.
[/quote]looks like a clown as well. if anyone had seen a picture of him before sending money - no-one would have bought anything 100%.
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What a croc!!!
I’m sorry to everyone affected. I’m personally going through a similar situation. People promise things they can’t deliver, have zero business plans, and think they can just walk away when they feel like it.
Currently working a small claims court issue, and thankfully an american express issue.
If anyone has used credit card to pay for any of these scams[size=14pt][b] seek a chargeback! [/b][/size]
Paypal i think has similar.
If you used dig currency, publish the addresses you sent them to, I’m certain there’s some smart minds out there that can track the money.
Bona Fortuna
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I just want to say thank you to mharrison79 for considering the forum and any legal implications in his making this information public.
I contacted him to discuss the ramifications for the forum of any personal information being posted in public, and he was extremely responsive and I am very glad that he took our points of view on board.
Thanks again mharrison, and I sincerely hope you are able to recover something from this situation.
Stefan
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[quote name=“mhamilton79” post=“54649” timestamp=“1390581643”]
looks like a clown as well. if anyone had seen a picture of him before sending money - no-one would have bought anything 100%.
[/quote]Let’s keep it to the merits. I look like a goddamn ginger troll but wouldn’t want that be the determining factor if someone works with me on something or not. -
lol a clever chap this one.
Im guessing he is clinging to the illusion that it was a project that you invested in that failed and then the money was lost.But as far as i know it was prepay of mining power, dissregarding risk of it.
I guess he never tried either (investing in gear etc)So i guess we can call this a pure scam/fraud.
And luckily bitcoin is recognised as an asset/value and are treathed in that manner.Anyone wanna file an police report on this?
I didnt invest (to many bells going off) and i dont live in the UK.
But ill gladly assist in any way. Maybe i can talk to KNCminer (swedish firm so i “speak” the correct language) -
I was rather skeptical of this and I didn’t sent any payments to him until he have delivered the first batch to the buyers.
Lucky me. ??? but I hope you guys can recover what you lost.
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That’s so sad. Not just because I lost 0.55 btc also because I thought he was really reliable.
Thank you mhamilton, you have received a pm.
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[quote name=“svennand” post=“54654” timestamp=“1390583061”]
But ill gladly assist in any way. Maybe i can talk to KNCminer (swedish firm so i “speak” the correct language)
[/quote]Sending you a PM
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[quote name=“mhamilton79” post=“54662” timestamp=“1390584076”]
[quote author=svennand link=topic=7170.msg54654#msg54654 date=1390583061]
But ill gladly assist in any way. Maybe i can talk to KNCminer (swedish firm so i “speak” the correct language)
[/quote]Sending you a PM
[/quote]lol i was quicker:)
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I feel like an idiot for offering this guy my help with his build, and ashamed that he is Irish !!!
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i expect with KNC we will just simply find out that he never actually paid for a miner.
If anyone has received any emails directly from him can they please PM me the header contents of those emails? we might be able to get an ISP IP address or some more information from there depending on which smtp server he was using
Thank you
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PM Sent
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I feel like an idiot for offering this guy my help with his build, and ashamed that he is Irish !!!
We’re not all like that.
[/quote]That’s the thing though…do we really know for sure that he is Irish? I mean couldn’t he have used a VPN in Ireland and a fake address/identity?
[/quote]Yes. It’s very possible. And should be likely unless he really didn’t think it through.
So that information would hinge on what he felt compelled to share with mhamilton79. If it had to do with domain transfer or something of the like it may not be correct, either. We’ll wait it out to see what spynappels or any other immediately involved admin directs in order to verify it the info is good or not.
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[quote name=“iawgoM” post=“54637” timestamp=“1390580157”]
Well…well…I don’t know what to say…I was afraid this might happen. Also, since there are (almost) no countries in the world who have clearly defined cryptocurrency, it might be difficult to prosecute this legally, but don’t give up on this guys! There must be a way…
[/quote]you smelled a rat, and I guess were right.
If he was in my area I pay him a visit for you guys. Lets not let anyone getaway with ripping us off… Warning do not fuck around in NYC. #Feathercoinscamsquad -
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Also, if you have confirmation of the above why not contact KnC - I’m sure they would be interested to know a product was purchased with illicit funds?
[/quote]A lawyer knocking on the door for stolen property is probably the best thing to do and succeed in getting refunds. This has to happen fast, since the ASIC is going to be shipped until Q2.