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I’d like to see:
A: Pics of hardware.
B: Copies of receipts [that we then can verify].
C: I think FTClover needs to get in touch with an admin and verify identity - privately.This is going to be a messy situation - but it can go much more smoothly if we re-establish trust. My only opinion is that this can be done through hard, irrefutable evidence. If you can prove who you are, and that you did in fact purchase said hardware and your story does check out - I’m sure you will have an easier time to deal with this situation. It might mean doing some scanning and privately PM’ing some ID’s to an admin, but it will be the minimum required to not get sucked into a possibly tedious legal process.
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[quote name=“mnstrcck” post=“54738” timestamp=“1390593355”]
I’d like to see:A: Pics of hardware.
B: Copies of receipts [that we then can verify].
C: I think FTClover needs to get in touch with an admin and verify identity - privately.This is going to be a messy situation - but it can go much more smoothly if we re-establish trust. My only opinion is that this can be done through hard, irrefutable evidence. If you can prove who you are, and that you did in fact purchase said hardware and your story does check out - I’m sure you will have an easier time to deal with this situation. It might mean doing some scanning and privately PM’ing some ID’s to an admin, but it will be the minimum required to not get sucked into a possibly tedious legal process.
[/quote]I agree. I’ve PM’ed him twice, as has ChrisJ, and sent an email, but have not received any reply.
You can keep this friendly like, or you can go the legal route. If you go the legal route, it’s going to be costly and unpleasant for everyone, especially Shane. If Shane wants to keep that off the table, working with a trusted community member is a very good idea. I’m volunteering my assistance in the matter, as is ChrisJ.
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[quote name=“FTClover” post=“54725” timestamp=“1390591394”]
So, here is exactly what has happened:I came up with the idea to sell mining contracts for these rigs, I was hoping to make enough bitcoin to cover the cost of the equipment in pre-orders like every other company taking pre-orders, but I didn’t take enough to cover the cost of the whole operation, so now I’m panicking and trying to come up with excuses because the bitcoins are no longer in my possession, I can however exchange what I have for bitcoin over the next week or so… I did not start this project as a scam whatsoever, I never intended to upset anyone, but I am a good man and I will pay everyone back over the next couple of months out of my wages if I have too! I’m sorry for making such a balls of it but I messed up and I want to fix it!
So please give me just a few days to get this sorted out! I will speak to anyone who would like to talk via skype: [email protected]
[/quote]I offered you the chance to pay me back the £2000+ in 4 installments of £500 - you refused, you have also never approved my skype request. I have even said i will buy all the equipment you purchased for an amount less what you have received in bitcoin, and then i will honor everyone’s contracts, I will even take a refund of what you owe me in hardware. I have offered to travel to you and help you set them and even host them in my server room. What other way i am supposed to offer you a chance to sort this out?
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[quote name=“Kevlar” post=“54741” timestamp=“1390593679”]
[quote author=mnstrcck link=topic=7170.msg54738#msg54738 date=1390593355]
I’d like to see:A: Pics of hardware.
B: Copies of receipts [that we then can verify].
C: I think FTClover needs to get in touch with an admin and verify identity - privately.This is going to be a messy situation - but it can go much more smoothly if we re-establish trust. My only opinion is that this can be done through hard, irrefutable evidence. If you can prove who you are, and that you did in fact purchase said hardware and your story does check out - I’m sure you will have an easier time to deal with this situation. It might mean doing some scanning and privately PM’ing some ID’s to an admin, but it will be the minimum required to not get sucked into a possibly tedious legal process.
[/quote]I agree. I’ve PM’ed him twice, as has ChrisJ, and sent an email, but have not received any reply.
You can keep this friendly like, or you can go the legal route. If you go the legal route, it’s going to be costly and unpleasant for everyone, especially Shane. If Shane wants to keep that off the table, working with a trusted community member is a very good idea. I’m volunteering my assistance in the matter, as is ChrisJ.
[/quote]i thinks this is great +1
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FTClover or shane if what you say is true then answer back to kevlar or chris and start to let experience people helping you resolve the problem… please let resolve it fast it will be beneficial for every body
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I will happily give any trusted member of this forum 0.50 BTC if they are prepared to travel to Shane to verify his operations. I will also knock off a further 0.50 btc from Shane’s liability to me if he allows this to happen (currently 3.6 BTC).
For me personally, regardless of if this is legit or not (i very highly doubt it) I want a refund. I do don’t business in this way and don’t want to be associated with any company that does.
The question everyone should be asking is what did he do with the money he was sent? He told me in an email he invested the bitcoins i sent him into his KNC miner. i purchased my contracts on the 19th January, at that point he allegedly was supposed to have already paid for the KNC miner. Remember he posted his purchase receipt way before that date (the receipt showed he ordered on the 16th January). If he did not order it and pay for it by that date then he has obtained money from everyone here by deception, which is a crime
Also at the point i paid him he was supposedly waiting delivery of all the hardware for batch one, and already ordered and paid for all hardware in batch 2.
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[quote name=“FTClover” post=“54761” timestamp=“1390595331”]
[quote author=mhamilton79 link=topic=7176.msg54759#msg54759 date=1390595132]
mine is correct - do tell us what you spent the 24+ BTC on?
[/quote]I never said they were spent I said they were not in my possession any more…
[/quote]err ok so excuse my french - WHERE THE FUCK ARE THEY?
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This is sad, people in this forum are very very nice, trusting and trustworthy, very sad to read something like this. I recently switched jobs and country, so I cant participate actively, but this is a really nice community I once hope to be a part of.
This sad, I don’t think any threats, violence or illegall stuff is the right approach here. The money, or risk, or your conscience is not worth it. If it was me, I’d try to organise people, choose a “leader” or two to pursue the matter, give them a cut of your debt, and give them time and means to pursue it with such pressure that the pressure and bad reputation will overtake possible gains. For 40k$ (that is what I read the total sum is) I don’t think someone will risk being labeled as a fraud his entire life, and if that is not the intention, maybe you can come with an agreement how to reimburse the debt, in installments if necessary. Insults, threats, etc, will not get this matter to a good territory.
Also, I’m no sure why some of you parted with couple of k$ to somebody you don’t know, no written contracts, no identity validation… the investment could be done incrementally, with receipts, and pics of hardware, maybe a chosen forum hero could have visited the premises… If it was me offering cloud hashing, I’d do all that’s necessary to provide validity to the project. Miners are usually not rich, and invest their hard earned cash, that is to be respected.
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[quote name=“vex” post=“54775” timestamp=“1390596698”]
This sad, I don’t think any threats, violence or illegall stuff is the right approach here.
[/quote]I think one person made a comment and “hashtagged” it like a joke. I ignored it, there’s no reason to pursue vigilante actions because it is likely that, failing a full rectification and honest communication from here on out, the legal route is very capable of handling the situation. -
[quote name=“vex” post=“54775” timestamp=“1390596698”]
Also, I’m no sure why some of you parted with couple of k$ to somebody you don’t know, no written contracts, no identity validation… the investment could be done incrementally, with receipts, and pics of hardware, maybe a chosen forum hero could have visited the premises… If it was me offering cloud hashing, I’d do all that’s necessary to provide validity to the project. Miners are usually not rich, and invest their hard earned cash, that is to be respected.
[/quote]Thank you, Captain Hindsight. In the future I hope people will consider escrow services with trusted members.
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[quote name=“HopeStillFlies” post=“54782” timestamp=“1390597086”]
[quote author=vex link=topic=7170.msg54775#msg54775 date=1390596698]
This sad, I don’t think any threats, violence or illegall stuff is the right approach here.
[/quote]I think one person made a comment and “hashtagged” it like a joke. I ignored it, there’s no reason to pursue vigilante actions because it is likely that, failing a full rectification and honest communication from here on out, the legal route is very capable of handling the situation.
[/quote]it wasn’t a joke bro, I was upset at the situation that happen to the comunity I love, and yes anyone takes my shit and your finished. >:(
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[quote name=“vex” post=“54775” timestamp=“1390596698”]
This is sad, people in this forum are very very nice, trusting and trustworthy, very sad to read something like this. I recently switched jobs and country, so I cant participate actively, but this is a really nice community I once hope to be a part of.This sad, I don’t think any threats, violence or illegall stuff is the right approach here. The money, or risk, or your conscience is not worth it. If it was me, I’d try to organise people, choose a “leader” or two to pursue the matter, give them a cut of your debt, and give them time and means to pursue it with such pressure that the pressure and bad reputation will overtake possible gains. For 40k$ (that is what I read the total sum is) I don’t think someone will risk being labeled as a fraud his entire life, and if that is not the intention, maybe you can come with an agreement how to reimburse the debt, in installments if necessary. Insults, threats, etc, will not get this matter to a good territory.
Also, I’m no sure why some of you parted with couple of k$ to somebody you don’t know, no written contracts, no identity validation… the investment could be done incrementally, with receipts, and pics of hardware, maybe a chosen forum hero could have visited the premises… If it was me offering cloud hashing, I’d do all that’s necessary to provide validity to the project. Miners are usually not rich, and invest their hard earned cash, that is to be respected.
[/quote] your definitely right, sorry I’ve lost my temper. -
[quote name=“FTClover” post=“54733” timestamp=“1390592031”]
I am not trying to buy more time, that is exactly what happened, I will post a full list of everyone I owe bitcoins too in about 5 minutes!
[/quote]FTCLOver, I am very, very concerned that you are mentally ill, please go to a doctor urgently.
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I am closing all but one thread dealing with this matter. Please use the thread at http://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php/topic,7176.msg55195.html#new for any new posts on this matter.
Stefan
