We need to take drastic measures

lizhi

I need a strong heart .

Radacoin

[quote name=“chillin” post=“32079” timestamp=“1382359391”]
Bitcoin is up, so ftc value in btc is down, that’s all.
[/quote]

In the last 2 month

Bitcoin is up 50%
FTC is down 90%

BTC is not a valid explanation for the FTC plunge. It’s because FTC is - essentially - useless.

tuneman1980

[quote name=“Radacoin” post=“32093” timestamp=“1382363928”]
[quote author=chillin link=topic=4140.msg32079#msg32079 date=1382359391]
Bitcoin is up, so ftc value in btc is down, that’s all.
[/quote]

In the last 2 month

Bitcoin is up 50%
FTC is down 90%

BTC is not a valid explanation for the FTC plunge. It’s because FTC is - essentially - useless.
[/quote]

Alt coins are disproportionally down compared to BTC’s rise because people are chasing the rise in BTC price, hoping that it will continue to increase. When the BTC price stabilizes the price of FTC should settle pretty close to where it was before.

chrisj

[quote name=“Radacoin” post=“32093” timestamp=“1382363928”]
[quote author=chillin link=topic=4140.msg32079#msg32079 date=1382359391]
Bitcoin is up, so ftc value in btc is down, that’s all.
[/quote]

In the last 2 month

Bitcoin is up 50%
FTC is down 90%

BTC is not a valid explanation for the FTC plunge. It’s because FTC is - essentially - useless.
[/quote]

[quote author=Radacoin link=topic=3451.msg26499#msg26499 date=1377706995]
Glad I could help ;)

Me being provocative is just part of my personality. I am actually a huge supporter of Feathercoin.
[/quote]

I was up until 5am this morning signing up [url=http://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php/topic,4133.0.html]more merchants[/url] and talking to new people who had questions on the [url=https://twitter.com/Feathercoin/status/392140315630370816]#Bitcoin hashtag[/url] on twitter.

This kind of fear projection often says more about the author than it does about the person it’s aimed at. To be honest the best way I could respond to this is just to keep working, you’re either part of the problem or the solution.

adamstgbit

[quote]We need to take drastic measures[/quote]

ok everyone listen, BTC may go to 1k$ but we have to keep FTC above 1cent USD!

let it drop right now

and be prepared to go all in at 1cent/FTC

:P

adamstgbit

FTC’s function is clear, monies for all the FTC users!

we have a market place, but it needs to be developed

we need to offer all amazon products for FTC

its still very early in development and you have to understand that open-source projects sometimes fall behind

but i’m confident that we can grow a good peaceful community here and create something fun and useful

sheepson

You can’t just put all the amazon products on the market, not without someone actually backing it and willing to buy the product for you -> accept FTC and then send it to your or something.

adamstgbit

[quote name=“sheepson” post=“32104” timestamp=“1382366257”]
You can’t just put all the amazon products on the market, not without someone actually backing it and willing to buy the product for you -> accept FTC and then send it to your or something.
[/quote]

its not that hard to take orders and have them shipped

I might do it

i’ll put a healthy markup to make it worth my while. but at least we can say you can buy anything with FTC

spynappels

[quote name=“MrFeathers” post=“32106” timestamp=“1382366686”]
Yeah its still very early. Speaking of ideas, I still stand by my old idea of having a simplified FTC to giftcard exchange. A market with a simplified layout that only offers digital (email) giftcards to nearly everywhere. You click on the graphic of whatever card you want and it matches you to a person selling that card. Then the coins go through escrow until you get your card via email. Or, if you want to buy some FTC, you offer a giftcard for sale. That would break the barrier of having to go through exchanges to buy and sell FTC. When I explain crypto currencies to people, it seems that dealing with online exchanges is always the biggest hurdle to getting started.

eddit: because giftcards are bought via creditcard or paypal. you can essentially buy FTC via credit card and paypal with a gift card intermediary.

Second eddit: you dont actually have to own the card your are selling until you get an order. because most major retailers sell email giftcard codes you wait till you get an order and the coins are in escrow and then you buy the card online and its emailed directly to the escrow which makes the switch.
[/quote]

[b]THIS![/b]

This would be a great way to make it easy to get into FTC, especially in countries like the UK where it is extremely difficult to buy FTC with fiat.

chrisj

[quote name=“spynappels” post=“32110” timestamp=“1382369293”]
[quote author=MrFeathers link=topic=4140.msg32106#msg32106 date=1382366686]
Yeah its still very early. Speaking of ideas, I still stand by my old idea of having a simplified FTC to giftcard exchange. A market with a simplified layout that only offers digital (email) giftcards to nearly everywhere. You click on the graphic of whatever card you want and it matches you to a person selling that card. Then the coins go through escrow until you get your card via email. Or, if you want to buy some FTC, you offer a giftcard for sale. That would break the barrier of having to go through exchanges to buy and sell FTC. When I explain crypto currencies to people, it seems that dealing with online exchanges is always the biggest hurdle to getting started.

eddit: because giftcards are bought via creditcard or paypal. you can essentially buy FTC via credit card and paypal with a gift card intermediary.

Second eddit: you dont actually have to own the card your are selling until you get an order. because most major retailers sell email giftcard codes you wait till you get an order and the coins are in escrow and then you buy the card online and its emailed directly to the escrow which makes the switch.
[/quote]

[b]THIS![/b]

This would be a great way to make it easy to get into FTC, especially in countries like the UK where it is extremely difficult to buy FTC with fiat.
[/quote]

Someone could just buy up a load of Gift Cards and sell them on the market place, I would be happy to help promote. Also accumulating Feathercoins right now would be quite an investment in the long run so anyone with the courage to take that position could step up right now?

kris_davison

I have thought about setting something like this up as well selling FTC via PayPal etc. The main issue I have found to setting this up is the fact that the customer can claim that the coins were never received and the payment processor e.g. PayPal have adopted a stance to take the customers side and the money is refunded. its not so easy to do with the coins as the transaction is a one way street so the seller loses out.

Im sure there is way around this. bitilicious for instance asks you to do a bank transfer into their account and (manually?) send the coins to you or at least make them available to your online version of a wallet on there site which can be moved out into your own wallet. Or local bitcoin seem to take the view that you need to find someone personally and transfer the coins to them for cash in hand or bank transfer or pingit.

I think there must be a better way to do this which keeps the customer and the seller safe but makes it very simple to buy coins for cash.

chrisj

[quote name=“unkunku” post=“32127” timestamp=“1382373322”]
Geez, let it rest guys, please don’t hype things any more than previously has been done.

The real value of FTC is just showing, and it’s according to my personal viewpoint go down even further. Either you see this as an investment and accept that you may lose money or stay out of it and join later. FTC is after all only 6 months old, don’t expect a rocket-ship just yet.
[/quote]

Thank-you.

justabitoftime

Feather’s long term price will be determined (in my opinion) by these 3 elements:

Community / Marketing
Utility
Innovation

#1 - Feather is a leader

#2 - Ideas such as the gift cards (I’ve brought up a similar idea in the past) allowing people to spend their coins is a great step. Without a Bitinstant, ALL alts will have difficulty in this department

#3 - Would love to see Feather really pull away from the Litecoin shadow

mirrax

[quote name=“Justabitoftime” post=“32137” timestamp=“1382376786”]
Feather’s long term price will be determined (in my opinion) by these 3 elements:

Community / Marketing
Utility
Innovation

#1 - Feather is a leader

#2 - Ideas such as the gift cards (I’ve brought up a similar idea in the past) allowing people to spend their coins is a great step. Without a Bitinstant, ALL alts will have difficulty in this department

#3 - Would love to see Feather really pull away from the Litecoin shadow
[/quote]

Shouldn’t you be seting up PPC/XPM UNOCS or something like this?

justabitoftime

[quote name=“mirrax” post=“32138” timestamp=“1382376907”]
[quote author=Justabitoftime link=topic=4140.msg32137#msg32137 date=1382376786]
Feather’s long term price will be determined (in my opinion) by these 3 elements:

Community / Marketing
Utility
Innovation

#1 - Feather is a leader

#2 - Ideas such as the gift cards (I’ve brought up a similar idea in the past) allowing people to spend their coins is a great step. Without a Bitinstant, ALL alts will have difficulty in this department

#3 - Would love to see Feather really pull away from the Litecoin shadow
[/quote]

Shouldn’t you be seting up PPC/XPM UNOCS or something like this?
[/quote]

I’m not quite sure how that comment was relevant to my suggestions. I didn’t mention anything about PPC/XPM… as an investor, that was my 2 cents.

kris_davison

Ah right I like that idea. Essentially your just sending a giftcard containing a password to an account/funds held with an escrow. That’s really nifty.

justabitoftime

[quote name=“MrFeathers” post=“32146” timestamp=“1382379465”]
[quote author=Justabitoftime link=topic=4140.msg32139#msg32139 date=1382377331]
[quote author=mirrax link=topic=4140.msg32138#msg32138 date=1382376907]
[quote author=Justabitoftime link=topic=4140.msg32137#msg32137 date=1382376786]
Feather’s long term price will be determined (in my opinion) by these 3 elements:

Community / Marketing
Utility
Innovation

#1 - Feather is a leader

#2 - Ideas such as the gift cards (I’ve brought up a similar idea in the past) allowing people to spend their coins is a great step. Without a Bitinstant, ALL alts will have difficulty in this department

#3 - Would love to see Feather really pull away from the Litecoin shadow
[/quote]

Shouldn’t you be seting up PPC/XPM UNOCS or something like this?
[/quote]

I’m not quite sure how that comment was relevant to my suggestions. I didn’t mention anything about PPC/XPM… as an investor, that was my 2 cents.
[/quote]

[img]http://cdn.meme.li/i/p7scf.jpg[/img]
[/quote]

Nope, I bought a few thousand at .00079/.00080. I’ll hold and see what comes of it.

Tony

[quote name=“Justabitoftime” post=“32264” timestamp=“1382478875”]
[quote author=MrFeathers link=topic=4140.msg32146#msg32146 date=1382379465]
[quote author=Justabitoftime link=topic=4140.msg32139#msg32139 date=1382377331]
[quote author=mirrax link=topic=4140.msg32138#msg32138 date=1382376907]
[quote author=Justabitoftime link=topic=4140.msg32137#msg32137 date=1382376786]
Feather’s long term price will be determined (in my opinion) by these 3 elements:

Community / Marketing
Utility
Innovation

#1 - Feather is a leader

#2 - Ideas such as the gift cards (I’ve brought up a similar idea in the past) allowing people to spend their coins is a great step. Without a Bitinstant, ALL alts will have difficulty in this department

#3 - Would love to see Feather really pull away from the Litecoin shadow
[/quote]

Shouldn’t you be seting up PPC/XPM UNOCS or something like this?
[/quote]

I’m not quite sure how that comment was relevant to my suggestions. I didn’t mention anything about PPC/XPM… as an investor, that was my 2 cents.
[/quote]

[img]http://cdn.meme.li/i/p7scf.jpg[/img]
[/quote]

Nope, I bought a few thousand at .00079/.00080. I’ll hold and see what comes of it.
[/quote]

After dumping FTC, PXC & WDC @ what price ?
and with such excellent timing

I’d hate to not be an investor in 3m time… lulz

justabitoftime

[quote name=“Tony” post=“32269” timestamp=“1382481110”]
[quote author=Justabitoftime link=topic=4140.msg32264#msg32264 date=1382478875]
[quote author=MrFeathers link=topic=4140.msg32146#msg32146 date=1382379465]
[quote author=Justabitoftime link=topic=4140.msg32139#msg32139 date=1382377331]
[quote author=mirrax link=topic=4140.msg32138#msg32138 date=1382376907]
[quote author=Justabitoftime link=topic=4140.msg32137#msg32137 date=1382376786]
Feather’s long term price will be determined (in my opinion) by these 3 elements:

Community / Marketing
Utility
Innovation

#1 - Feather is a leader

#2 - Ideas such as the gift cards (I’ve brought up a similar idea in the past) allowing people to spend their coins is a great step. Without a Bitinstant, ALL alts will have difficulty in this department

#3 - Would love to see Feather really pull away from the Litecoin shadow
[/quote]

Shouldn’t you be seting up PPC/XPM UNOCS or something like this?
[/quote]

I’m not quite sure how that comment was relevant to my suggestions. I didn’t mention anything about PPC/XPM… as an investor, that was my 2 cents.
[/quote]

[img]http://cdn.meme.li/i/p7scf.jpg[/img]
[/quote]

Nope, I bought a few thousand at .00079/.00080. I’ll hold and see what comes of it.
[/quote]

After dumping FTC, PXC & WDC @ what price ?
and with such excellent timing

I’d hate to not be an investor in 3m time… lulz
[/quote]

People get edgy when their investments are bottoming out, I get it. Ask how much it cost to pay for the programming for the checkpointing and how much I contributed. Ask how much I sent over for the 33000 fork or the contests or the countless giveaways. Ask ChrisJ on all the contacts I sent his way when he took the helm of Feather. I spent my time and paid my dues here, period.

Take shots all you want, it doesn’t move the price of this coin. You have a strong community under ChrisJ, however, without the innovation, I think you’re in for a fight for slot #2. Other communities are getting organized, it’s not April anymore.

I’ll keep a few thousand just in case FTC gets on Gox. Like I said, I lost some PXC and WDC coming down. I wish I made a better investment, but that money is gone. Innovation, multiple 51% attacks and utility are the reason Feathercoin drops, not me. You have a solid community that I respect, I wish everyone the best of luck. Even if the price doesn’t move much in the future, your voice is being heard loud and clear!

mirrax

[quote name=“erk” post=“32283” timestamp=“1382493281”]
It’s interesting that people are cashing out of their alts to buy BTC, but they are not selling the BTC when it rises, what are they waiting for BTC to start falling? Do we then see a mad rush to alts again?
[/quote]

^^Yes, as soon as trend reverse alts will shoot up…