ADSactly The Ultimate Society
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I’m not sure how I can contribute but I’ll you on my skype anyways if that’s ok?
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Sounds cool, keep us updated… +1
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Yes that would be Great Calem you can also setup a FREE Account with ADSactly and it will
be much easier to follow our Progress.I would also like to put together a CryptoStock Site that accepts Feathercoin, Worldcoin and
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[quote name=“ADSactly” post=“48064” timestamp=“1388250743”]
We are slowly piecing together a completely Open Source Advertising and Marketing System. Right now we are in the process of Redeveloping ADSactly from Scratch and when it is complete we will offer exactly what everybody needs to put there project in-front of the Masses.
[/quote]Hey Micah!
As you may be aware, I’m on the verge of launching a new site, and I want to get some high-level exposure on it. Specifically I’m looking to purchase some click-through from some targeted advertisement, and I’d love to pay in Feathercoins.
I visited your site a few months ago when I first heard about it, and I was hoping to use your site to drive some traffic my way, but it seems like there’s a few critical features missing, and I was hoping you could point me in the right direction to find them.
Specifically I want to target a demographic in a specific geographic region. There’s not much point in me paying for impressions to 40 year old housewives. Tribal Fusion offers me about $1.00 CPM, and guaranteed impression rates, can your service do the same? Also, how do you track conversions with your service? What reporting tools do you have to track campaign progress? How do you acquire your traffic and at what volume? Do you target social networking sites as well? What about campaign design?
Perhaps it’s a moot point, it would seem there’s no way for me to qualify with the restrictions. Since the site is about user generated content, there’s no way to know if it contains adult material, illegal material, or material that is not in English, all of which violate your terms of service.
Anyway, if you could assist me with these marketing needs I’d be very happy to pay in Feathercoins. I figured I’d ask here so everyone can gain the same wisdom. Do let me know!
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Hey Kevlar,
Right now we are in the Process of Major Redevelopment All of the Critical Features you are looking for are
in the process of being developed.Right now we offer Website Hosting, Auto Responders, Rotators,
and a Web Page Builder.The New ADSactly will have ADSactly what your looking for I assure you.
Thank you for your interest in our services maybe we can connect on Skype
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I would like to ask the FTC community if they can make this Thread a Kickstarter
to help ADSactly get the resources we need to launch a Crypto Stock and
complete development of our Open Source Tools and Systems. -
ADSactly will start giving away Feathercoins to those who are Active Paying Customer
in ADSactly. I think what better way to prove my model than to start putting my money
where my mouth is.I will only be able to give FTC to people as long as I have the resources available to do
so. Please Heavy Holders of Feathercoin we want to increase the Value Proposition with
Feathercoin we appreciate you support!It will be a random amount of Feathercoin for each paying customer ranging from
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I never got any FTC either, so don’t feel bad.
I did get a couple of emails threatening to disable my account.
Today I got the following email:
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The New ADSactly is ready to be Tested by a few of our Random Members please let us know what you think of the new System.
[/quote]So I went there, signed up, and had a browse around.
As best I can tell this isn’t ready to be tested so much as it’s ready to be developed. The only thing I could find that was working was a forum section which was empty. All the links in the footer didn’t go anywhere, there wasn’t actually ANY advertising services available, let alone the ones that have been promised and promoted repeatedly, and the entire site was just full of words with no functionality whatsoever. Talk of points, ad rotators, and affiliate programs were everywhere, yet no functionality could be found.
I bring this up because in a previous post it was very clearly stated:
[quote]
The New ADSactly will have ADSactly what your looking for I assure you.
[/quote]And the email I received said:
[quote]
The New ADSactly is ready to be Tested by a few of our Random Members please let us know what you think of the new System.
[/quote]Which is CLEARLY a lie, since there’s nothing ready to be tested.
I really hate being lied to. :-\
Finally, most concerning of all is the request:
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I would like to ask the FTC community if they can make this Thread a Kickstarter
to help ADSactly get the resources we need to launch a Crypto Stock and
complete development of our Open Source Tools and Systems.
[/quote]This should be alarming. Someone is asking for your money to develop their commercial product with no details on what it is you’re investing in, what you can expect to receive in return, and what the money will be used to accomplish.
As you know I’m a big fan of crowdfunding, but I firmly believe that it should be done in the most transparent way possible with clear goals set, and reasonable expectations for what you’re getting in return for your investment. If this is a commercial venture (which it clearly is), then usually people will expect to receive some sort of ownership or profit sharing. If this is an open source project, then the code should be available for review and auditing. If something is ready for testing and functionality has been promised, then it’s usually expected that the functionality promised will be available. If you say you’re going to do something publicly, you should probably do it. If you ask for money, you should expect to give people something in return.
I have serious advertising needs, and as much as I would love to support fellow forum members and pay for my services in crypto-currencies, I’m going to pass on ADSactly, and I can’t suggest you do anything different with your time and money.
Of course if the situation changes… if the promised features materialize, and the threats to disable my account stop, and the new site starts getting some serious media attention, I’ll be the first to change my tune. I hope to see that happen, but I’m not going to hold my breath.
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Hey Everybody,
I really can’t believe the Feathercoin Community would attack us like this. Do you realize we
are not a Million Dollar Corporation and thus we are doing everything out of pocket.All the Tools I mentioned are there however they are not ALL FREE!
The Website Hosting Works and has been live since I took over the company 5 months
ago.I do not understand see why you didn’t even contact me on Skype or
through a support ticket to ask how to get access to your services.If you were viewing the Development Site its ready to be tested
and its still ALPHA Stage of Development.If you want access to the DEMO you need to contact me I am
not making the Alpha Development Back Office Public.Currently we only have our Lead Developer that is working
hard to get this completed with in the next 2 to 3 months.I am shocked to see that Kevlar would really make all these
bold claims without actually confirming his claims.The URL Rotator Works Perfectly and its only accessible
if you request it to be setup.The Autoresponder Works fine.
I don’t understand what your saying Kevlar. The New
ADSactly Platform is not complete yet if you don’t
want to contribute to our project right now that
fine. Please give us a breakWe are Unincorporated, Unregistered Trust Law
ADSactly The Ultimate Society is a massive project.
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[quote author=ADSactly link=topic=6441.msg49024#msg49024 date=1388643639]
ADSactly will start giving away Feathercoins to those who are Active Paying Customer
in ADSactly…
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Well, I’m not so convinced that this is the complete truth…not until this matter is resolved:
[quote author=iawgoM link=topic=6403.msg49140#msg49140 date=1388673660]
[quote author=ADSactly link=topic=6403.msg48923#msg48923 date=1388594901]
Ok I will send you 10 FTC as soon as I make another Trade ;)
[/quote]Man, those trades take some tome…don’t they? ::)
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3 days later, still no payout. That doesn’t really give you credibility when you announce something, does it?And no, I’m not obsessed with that 10 FTC…
[img]http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/it+s+not+about+the+money+_c12e45b923dede0603587df8dea12ca0.jpg[/img]
[/quote]I Find it disheartening that you didn’t even announce that because of the Long Wait
I sent you 10X more than I said I was going to send.Its really sad that people will invest all there bitcoins and feathercoins into a company
that didn’t even have any products in hand. ADSactly has Unlimited Access to tools
and services you are are already paying Corporations for and we only ask for a 15$
monthly Contribution at this time to get access to all of our tools.Kevlar never paid for his account thus he couldn’t access the
Paid Servicesthe notice to disable your account went to all 3000
People in our system.It was a Generic Message and it actually said if you are paying
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[quote name=“Kevlar” post=“50066” timestamp=“1388958090”]
I never got any FTC either, so don’t feel bad.I did get a couple of emails threatening to disable my account.
Today I got the following email:
[quote]
The New ADSactly is ready to be Tested by a few of our Random Members please let us know what you think of the new System.
[/quote]So I went there, signed up, and had a browse around.
As best I can tell this isn’t ready to be tested so much as it’s ready to be developed. The only thing I could find that was working was a forum section which was empty. All the links in the footer didn’t go anywhere, there wasn’t actually ANY advertising services available, let alone the ones that have been promised and promoted repeatedly, and the entire site was just full of words with no functionality whatsoever. Talk of points, ad rotators, and affiliate programs were everywhere, yet no functionality could be found.
I bring this up because in a previous post it was very clearly stated:
[quote]
The New ADSactly will have ADSactly what your looking for I assure you.
[/quote]And the email I received said:
[quote]
The New ADSactly is ready to be Tested by a few of our Random Members please let us know what you think of the new System.
[/quote]Which is CLEARLY a lie, since there’s nothing ready to be tested.
I really hate being lied to. :-\
Finally, most concerning of all is the request:
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I would like to ask the FTC community if they can make this Thread a Kickstarter
to help ADSactly get the resources we need to launch a Crypto Stock and
complete development of our Open Source Tools and Systems.
[/quote]This should be alarming. Someone is asking for your money to develop their commercial product with no details on what it is you’re investing in, what you can expect to receive in return, and what the money will be used to accomplish.
As you know I’m a big fan of crowdfunding, but I firmly believe that it should be done in the most transparent way possible with clear goals set, and reasonable expectations for what you’re getting in return for your investment. If this is a commercial venture (which it clearly is), then usually people will expect to receive some sort of ownership or profit sharing. If this is an open source project, then the code should be available for review and auditing. If something is ready for testing and functionality has been promised, then it’s usually expected that the functionality promised will be available. If you say you’re going to do something publicly, you should probably do it. If you ask for money, you should expect to give people something in return.
I have serious advertising needs, and as much as I would love to support fellow forum members and pay for my services in crypto-currencies, I’m going to pass on ADSactly, and I can’t suggest you do anything different with your time and money.
Of course if the situation changes… if the promised features materialize, and the threats to disable my account stop, and the new site starts getting some serious media attention, I’ll be the first to change my tune. I hope to see that happen, but I’m not going to hold my breath.
[/quote]Here a question for you Kevlar do you know the difference between Alpha Development, Beta Development, Testing etc?
seems to me you are very impatient I don’t have millions of dollars I am a simply man I don’t get involved with many
things online and I ask question when I don’t understand something.The Post you made completely destroyed any chance of making ADSactly a Platform that accepts Feathercoin I don’t
remember anywhere in this Topic talking about Advertising Systems. Please correct me if I am wrong but don’t you need
to have a Customer Base to advertise in-front of before you start offering those services?ADSactly The Ultimate Society will reward each and every Independent Associate that has Contributed to our Development
Please don’t slander our Society Kevlar we never did anything to you we
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Here a question for you Kevlar do you know the difference between Alpha Development, Beta Development, Testing etc?
[/quote]Having been doing professional software development for enterprise websites for over 25 years, yes… I do.
Alpha testing is simulated or actual operational testing by potential users/customers or an independent test team at the developers’ site. It implies that the software in question is [u]feature complete[/u], but hasn’t yet been tested to ensure a viable user experience.
Beta testing is a form of user acceptance testing where users are invited to test something which is [u]feature complete[/u] and has been tested internally (alpha testing) but has not yet been battle hardened by user testing.
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seems to me you are very impatient I don’t have millions of dollars I am a simply man I don’t get involved with many things online and I ask question when I don’t understand something.
[/quote]I’m not impatient, I’d happy wait YEARS for you to complete your endeavor before giving it the thumbs up. You’re the one who said it was ready when it clearly isn’t.
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The Post you made completely destroyed any chance of making ADSactly a Platform that accepts Feathercoin
[/quote]Hey man, that’s your loss. I’m sure your customers will love the excuse of, “Well someone said something I don’t like on a forum so I’m cutting out an entire demographic.” That’s your idea of good business practices?
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Please don’t slander our Society Kevlar we never did anything to you we don’t deserve the hostility.
[/quote]Slander requires false statements to be made. I’m not being hostile, I’m being honest. You’re the one who’s asking people for their money under false pretenses, all I’m doing is relating my experience.
If something I said isn’t true, you’re welcome to point out why it isn’t true. There’s no need to make this personal.
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I just checked the website out and I have no idea what’s going on.
What does ADSactly - erm - ADSactly do?
So far, all I can tell is you guys are saying it’s not a scam, there’s talk of referrals and something something grey-hat marketing?I don’t see the point of increasing traffic, or sharing traffic, if the people are only doing it to gain crypto from you guys. That’s like Facebook click-farms being the predominant clickers on paid Facebook ads - so they appear normal.
I’m in the midst of starting a REAL marketing company, so this sort of weird online grey-area stuff interests me. I’d love it if you could give me an easy to understand breakdown of what it is you are doing, without going into “random paragraphs filled with SEO keywords for maximum impact” like on the website nonsense.
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I just checked the website out and I have no idea what’s going on.What does ADSactly - erm - ADSactly do?
So far, all I can tell is you guys are saying it’s not a scam, there’s talk of referrals and something something grey-hat marketing?I don’t see the point of increasing traffic, or sharing traffic, if the people are only doing it to gain crypto from you guys. That’s like Facebook click-farms being the predominant clickers on paid Facebook ads - so they appear normal.
I’m in the midst of starting a REAL marketing company, so this sort of weird online grey-area stuff interests me. I’d love it if you could give me an easy to understand breakdown of what it is you are doing, without going into “random paragraphs filled with SEO keywords for maximum impact” like on the website nonsense.
[/quote]As best I can tell, they offer the following services:
-Website hosting (details not supplied, but one can pretty safely assume it’s not enterprise grade hosting)
-Auto-responder (I can only assume for emails? Like an “out of office reply” in Outlook?)
-A URL rotator (a system where the same link or URL sends the visitor to different addresses either in some rotation pattern or randomly)
-A URL shortner (like bit.ly, except no details on what services are available like custom urls)
-Classifieds (a page with all the people who paid’s logos on it)
-Website builder (capable of producing any website you want so long as it looks like all the other websites it produces).If you want website hosting, iPage is $20 a YEAR. GoDaddy is like $1.90 a month. If you want something more sohpisticated, Digital Ocean is $5 a month per server, and there’s tons of $10 credits to be had for new customers.
If you want an auto-responder, mailchimp.com has a VERY full featured one that lets you do things like customize when the responses are sent and ties them back to your marketing campaign so you can do analytics tracking.
If you want a url rotator, I’ll write you a client side one in Javascript for 0.1 FTC, or a server side one in PHP for 0.5 FTC.
If you want classified ads, Craigslist can’t be beat.
If you want a website builder, wix.com has a free HTML5 one that’s incredible.
I’d LOVE to see a non-paid user do an honest side-by-side comparison of these with the ADSactly website and see how it stacks up.
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[quote name=“Kevlar” post=“58795” timestamp=“1392245218”]
I LOVE PHP
[/quote]Admittedly, it wasn’t quite in that order…but the words were there. Freud was right.
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Here:
[code]
$links=“http://google.com,http://yahoo.com,http://msn.com”;
$linkx=explode(“,”,$links);
shuffle($linkx);
header(“Location: $linkx[0]”);
die();
?>
[/code][quote name=“MTRisner” post=“58798” timestamp=“1392246026”]
[quote author=Kevlar link=topic=6441.msg58795#msg58795 date=1392245218]
I LOVE PHP
[/quote]Admittedly, it wasn’t quite in that order…but the words were there. Freud was right.
[/quote]You’re so fired.
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Well I suppose you have point there Kevlar maybe today our services are not that interesting
to a techie guy such as yourself.We have over 60 Co-Founders and working together with from all over the world I don’t think
you realize the marketing strength we will have when our Platform is completed; our member-base
will quickly grow to Millions of people because it will always be [b]FREE[/b] to join ADSactly The Ultimate
Society.If you think we are here to make a profit my friend you are mistaken. We are here to make a living
and help everybody do the same.We will have many Products and Services, and we will Recommend Companies that offer value and
Merchants that would be interested in accepting FTC or ADSactly Gift Dollars which we will be creating
and using for Trade in the future.Please forgive me Kevlar I didn’t mean to get off on the wrong foot I want to work together with
everybody here I am not here to make enemies. Corporations are setup to cause Harm. I want
to Setup ADSactly The Ultimate Society to Provide Value to everybody and cause harm to nobody.When I said the Alpha Testing Site was ready to test I meant just that. I shouldn’t of allowed
and Random Members in tho I should of only allowed our Co-Founders who already knew
what we were putting together based on ADSactly what they asked us for PUN Intended!Anyways I hope we can start Fresh I am not asking anybody here for money to join ADSactly
I am simply looking for people who would be interested in contributing their time or resources
to help us Build this Society.All funding goes to programs, the public, salaries, infrastructure needs or is held in our society
trust to carry out our societies plans and vision that the entire world should have ADSactly
what they need.I hope we can work something out here Kevlar Corporations are our enemies not individual
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[quote name=“ADSactly” post=“58826” timestamp=“1392265518”]
Well I suppose you have point there Kevlar maybe today our services are not that interesting
to a techie guy such as yourself.
[/quote]Well who do you think your target market audience is exactly? I’m a web site operator interested in driving traffic to my site, and making money. I’m -the- guy who makes these decisions in businesses of who to give our IT budget to.
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We have over 60 Co-Founders and working together with from all over the world I don’t think
you realize the marketing strength we will have when our Platform is completed; our member-base
will quickly grow to Millions of people because it will always be [b]FREE[/b] to join ADSactly The Ultimate
Society.
[/quote]That’s great, man. More power to you.
I’m really interested in knowing how you intend to do it. So far I’ve not seen anything that makes me think “That’s going to change my life” and I’m about as on target as it gets for your audience. So, impress me. I love technology, I love empowering people, I run websites, make me a believer!
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If you think we are here to make a profit my friend you are mistaken. We are here to make a living
and help everybody do the same.
[/quote]I don’t believe you. You’re operating a service, and charging people to become ‘partners’. You’re not a non-profit organization, and asking people to help fund your development efforts. That’s a business. You have 60 Co-Founders who you have a responsibility to too!
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We will have many Products and Services, and we will Recommend Companies that offer value and
Merchants that would be interested in accepting FTC or ADSactly Gift Dollars which we will be creating
and using for Trade in the future.
[/quote]Ok, great. So… show us how those products stack up against your competition.
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Please forgive me Kevlar I didn’t mean to get off on the wrong foot I want to work together with
everybody here I am not here to make enemies. Corporations are setup to cause Harm. I want
to Setup ADSactly The Ultimate Society to Provide Value to everybody and cause harm to nobody.
[/quote]And that’s great, and I’d love to support you.
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When I said the Alpha Testing Site was ready to test I meant just that. I shouldn’t of allowed
and Random Members in tho I should of only allowed our Co-Founders who already knew
what we were putting together based on ADSactly what they asked us for PUN Intended!
[/quote]You very clearly said it was beta testing several times, and it’s not feature complete. As you keep saying it’s got 2-3 more months left of development. So that puts it ready for prime time in May? Or is it ready for beta testing then, when development is complete? Because I’m pretty sure that’s how beta testing works: First you do development, then you beta test and fix bugs, then you launch.
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Anyways I hope we can start Fresh I am not asking anybody here for money to join ADSactly
I am simply looking for people who would be interested in contributing their time or resources
to help us Build this Society.
[/quote]No, as we’ve established your asking them for money for be partners in ADSactly.
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All funding goes to programs, the public, salaries, infrastructure needs or is held in our society
trust to carry out our societies plans and vision that the entire world should have ADSactly
what they need.
[/quote]Yes, I understand how businesses work.
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I hope we can work something out here Kevlar Corporations are our enemies not individual
people.
[/quote]Yep, love to. Help me to understand. Please.
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Please stop fighting over this. It leads nowhere.
It is obvious that ADSactly went public with his site much too early in the development process. It is very easy to be (overly) excited about something you created, and than feel bad because others don’t share your enthusiasm.
ADSactly, I understand that you are eager to see you project walk, and that you need money to grow it further. But launching it too early you risk getting no money + getting a bad reputation.
My advice(s):
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[*] [u]Understand the essence of the relationship marketing.[/u] The book [i]Total Relationship Marketing (Evert Gummerson)[/i] might be a good starting point. Not because you need to know how to make a project walk, but to understand that relationships (with customers, potential customers, even competitors etc) are assets.
[*][u]Redesign your project[/u] to make it relevant to a (large enough) group of people. Find your segment, and try to fulfill the needs that are already present there.
[*]Redesign your project in such way that services will fit together in a logical way; for the current size of your project. You are not wise to offer a) web hosting, b) SEO, c) advertising network … Nobody will believe you that you are good at all/any of them. This could tear your project apart. seriously.
[*]Redesign your services. Innovate. Not just because you can, but try to make innovations relevant to someone. When I read about the URL rotator (as decribed on your site) I felt my blood pressure rising. Get someone that knows at least something about marketing. Random redirects seem like nonsense to me. Try to learn about the visitors from the available data. see 5)
[*][u]You might get a couple of ideas reading[/u]: [i]Avinash Kaushik: Web Analytics[/i], and [i]Web Analytics 2.0[/i]. Don’t event try to enter the market below this level.
[*]When you are satisfied with the redesign show the project to your friends, and ask how they feel about it. Then ask forum members about their opinion.
[*][u]If you are satisfied with the feedback go present your project at a conference[/u]. Even Feathercoin meeting at Oxford Blue might be a good start.[u]If it is not worth presenting it is not worth developing[/u] (my opinion). Unless you are only after offering web hosting service, but I don’t think you are.
[/list]OK?
I hope it helps.Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with ADSactly in any way. I don’t know the guy. This is the first time I’ve heard of him & this project.
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Thank you guys for your constructive criticism. I will admit I made a mistake saying this was Beta testing I clearly
met to only share the Development Platform with our long term members who would of thought the random emails
I sent the Development site to would include Kevlar.I only have one Web Developer at this current time and contrary to your beliefs we are not here to make a profit
we are here to make a living and take the control away from the Faceless Corporations.All of the services we provide today are just the products and services we have started putting together we plan
on integrating FTC, BTC, LTC etc. As well as ADSactly Gift Dollars that will be traded in a Decentralized P2P Exchange.We don’t want ADSactly to be another tool company instead we want to Strategically Associate ourselves with
like-minded people and Honest ethical businesses that provide Products and Services that give ADSactly the
results everybody is searching for.Kevlar you mentioned something about how we think we are going to be able to grow our customer-base to
Millions of people well that’s simple. Many of the Co-Founder and Strategic Associates we have involved with
ADSactly have massive membership bases and we are in the process of securing exclusive pricing deals and
incentives to entice their customers to join ADSactly.The Gifts that our members receive for bringing their members to ADSactly will be 65% of the Contribution
credited each month the customer stays active.I will admit we are far from perfect, If this counts for anything this is my First Society that I have decided to put
together and the fact that we are not another company or business opportunity is good because many people
don’t realize the damage that Corporations and LLC Cause.Kevlar I am giving Lifetime Hosting, Auto-responders, Rotators, Web Page Builder, CRM, and every other tool
or service we develop in the future to all of our 200 Co-Founders that Contribute to our overall project during
our Development Phase.I hope you decide to join us and please accept my apology for starting off on the wrong foot.
Keep in my the OLD Website is not even worth looking at, I didn’t build nor did my Web Developer
He is a Professional and the main reason I took over ADSactly 5 Months ago was because I saw
BIG Things in ADSactly’s future.I know there is still A-LOT of Work to be done before we can say we actually have ADSactly what
everybody wants but that doesn’t mean we can’t all work together to make this happen one day
at a time.
