UNOCS - Update Posted in Sticky
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Looking good
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Any more updates on UNOCS? Haven’t heard anything in a couple days.
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[quote name=“wesphily” post=“23213” timestamp=“1374854215”]
cyber security specialists.
[/quote]that’s an oxymoron. ;)
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[quote name=“wesphily” post=“23213” timestamp=“1374854215”]
waiting on infrastructure security to be implemented. After that the site will be pen tested by cyber security specialists.
[/quote]I’m guessing that means there’s not ETA then? They may want to update the page so it doesn’t seem like it was supposed to come up in a couple of hours and someone forgot to do it. Other than that I’m eager to see it. :)
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[quote name=“wesphily” post=“23213” timestamp=“1374854215”]
waiting on infrastructure security to be implemented. After that the site will be pen tested by cyber security specialists.
[/quote]Great. We’re going on a week now, and they just NOW figured out they might want to stick it behind a firewall and run nessus on it? Almost a week after the launch?!?
This is beyond embarrassing. We should just sell our coins before the price completely bottoms out and buy a bunch of bottlecaps. They’re cheap this week and 5% compound monthly interest isn’t bad. Maybe we can buy them all back at a fraction of the price in a month or so.
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Selling your coins changes what exactly?
If youre unsatisfied performane the moves which satisfy you but please dont share it here … all you do is creating bad mood - capitalistic pov … thays what i call support -
[quote name=“Markus11” post=“23289” timestamp=“1374918348”]
Selling your coins changes what exactly?
If youre unsatisfied performane the moves which satisfy you but please dont share it here … all you do is creating bad mood.
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[quote name=“Markus11” post=“23289” timestamp=“1374918348”]
Selling your coins changes what exactly?
If youre unsatisfied performane the moves which satisfy you but please dont share it here … all you do is creating bad mood - capitalistic pov … thays what i call support
[/quote]No, that’s actually exactly what this forum is for: The sharing of opinions related to the currency, and not just the ones you happen to like either. I’ve done nothing but support the members of this community with my efforts, and you better believe that a capitalistic PoV is appropriate when we’re [u][i][b]discussing the performance of a currency[/b][/i][/u].
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Right,but here is NOT the place to scare people to get cheap coins … it isnt all black as you paint it.
Get your profit and leave this place for good … oh forgot it doesnt take a rocket scientists to see the potencial of ftc … means you will stay longer here and dump around … boring news, jmo;-)
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[quote name=“Markus11” post=“23298” timestamp=“1374920795”]
Right,but here is NOT the place to scare people to get cheap coins … it isnt all black as you paint it.
[/quote]Agreed. Please do not spread what can be interpreted as FUD.
I’d rather not get any more complaints about this thread. By all means, state your opinions but if it comes across as FUD, I will have to moderate. Please don’t make me do this.
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[quote name=“Kevlar” post=“23295” timestamp=“1374920392”]
No, that’s actually exactly what this forum is for: The sharing of opinions related to the currency, and not just the ones you happen to like either. I’ve done nothing but support the members of this community with my efforts, and you better believe that a capitalistic PoV is appropriate when we’re [u][i][b]discussing the performance of a currency[/b][/i][/u].
[/quote]Agreed. If these (meaning all) cryptocurrencies were actually designed to “take down central banks” they wouldn’t spend so much time talking about what features are coming one day and instead just do it, release it and let it do it’s thing on it’s own merits without the want for glory and profit.
[move][b]These coins are for profit only.[/b][/move]
I’ve yet to see a coin that’s serious about taking the necessary step to end all of our misery by actually offering a crypto that is a feasible alternative to fiat. I’ll keep waiting though. Until then, I’m going to trade the hell out of these coins [b]for profit[/b], just like the devs, just like the associate devs, just like the managers, pool operators and on and on.
In my opinion, no one behind any existing cryptocurrency is in this for anything other than profit. If I’m wrong, prove it to me and the rest of us with your actions.
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[quote name=“spynappels” post=“23306” timestamp=“1374923525”]
[quote author=Markus11 link=topic=2934.msg23298#msg23298 date=1374920795]
Right,but here is NOT the place to scare people to get cheap coins … it isnt all black as you paint it.
[/quote]Agreed. Please do not spread what can be interpreted as FUD.
I’d rather not get any more complaints about this thread. By all means, state your opinions but if it comes across as FUD, I will have to moderate. Please don’t make me do this.
[/quote]Are you suggesting that beeing critical to unocs in the unocs thread is interpreted as fud?
Kevlar has some valid and interesting points… -
[quote name=“svennand” post=“23318” timestamp=“1374927733”]
Are you suggesting that beeing critical to unocs in the unocs thread is interpreted as fud?
Kevlar has some valid and interesting points…
[/quote]No, I’m not. I happen to agree with a lot of what Kevlar has said. I was directly referring to the suggestion that every one sell their coins as they were unlikely to be worth much soon. That mirrors what is said in the trollbox everyday, and is not appropriate here.
Like I said, criticism is fine, opinion is fine, but if I get complaints, I have to look at them and if I feel they are warranted, I have to act on them.
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[quote name=“spynappels” post=“23323” timestamp=“1374931129”]
[quote author=svennand link=topic=2934.msg23318#msg23318 date=1374927733]
Are you suggesting that beeing critical to unocs in the unocs thread is interpreted as fud?
Kevlar has some valid and interesting points…
[/quote]No, I’m not. I happen to agree with a lot of what Kevlar has said. I was directly referring to the suggestion that every one sell their coins as they were unlikely to be worth much soon. That mirrors what is said in the trollbox everyday, and is not appropriate here.
Like I said, criticism is fine, opinion is fine, but if I get complaints, I have to look at them and if I feel they are warranted, I have to act on them.
[/quote]Ok, just needed to know that there were no form of “silencing” going on. since we´re an open comunity and everyones ideas/conserns should be hear/responded to :)
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Seriously,I’m really confused about this situation.Can’t you guys just give a exact time about UNOCS’s launch?We’re waiting so so so long(Almost a week since the irresponsible delayed). :(。BTW:keep update the latest info about this in the “UNOCS Bridge - Update July 24 â€,ok?thx.
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PROOF the oposit TUCK;-)
What a childish attitude … everyone should do what he/she wants … but avoid to DUMP the coin and ruin its reputation because of … hot air and greed to get cheapies … banana?;-) -
[quote name=“Markus11” post=“23354” timestamp=“1374946525”]
PROOF the oposit TUCK;-)
What a childish attitude … everyone should do what he/she wants … but avoid to DUMP the coin and ruin its reputation because of … hot air and greed to get cheapies … banana?;-)
[/quote]I’m lost Markus (but I like you!). Perhaps I worded my post poorly. I don’t feel I took a shot at anyone or any coin. I spoke what I think is fact and nothing more. No FUD intended, those are my honest feelings.
I’m sorry if you don’t agree, but I have a hard time seeing anything other than profit as a driving force behind any existing coins. Perhaps the problem is we have a different opinion on “profit”?
Profit (for me personally) = Me obtaining more cryptocoins without using USD.
I have no problem with a dev or anyone profiting (in fiat) off these coins. In fact, as I’ve stated, I believe that is their sole purpose and that’s not a problem for me, I was just hoping for more. But, I’ll take what I can get since it’s still better than fiat.
In fact, as I’ve stated to Bush (or some dev), I have no problem with coins being premined by devs (I’m not saying FTC is premined, stawp) since I feel they deserve to be paid for their work. But, I do understand the philosophy behind having a problem with premines and I can fully support that position without interfering with my own. In other words, I don’t care either way.
My problem is, pretending that this isn’t about profit, when all signals indicate otherwise. Again, that’s not an issue for me personally. Profit all you want, hence why I said I will too. I’m not in this solely for profit, but I’m sure not going to turn profit down when I see an opportunity (like this one).
I don’t feel anything I’ve said has ruined the reputation of anything in any way possible, nor do I believe I possess such awesome power.
I stated my opinions and what I believe to be factual information. I don’t remember using the word “dump”, but if I did the only reason would be to reference someone else using it (see fontas) in jest.
I routinely ditch most all of a cryptocoin to purchase more at a lower price. Doesn’t everyone?!
I assumed we all picked our spots, sold off and re-bought more lower (profit).
Maybe I’m doing something wrong, but [b]I’m trying to obtain the most cryptocurrency I can[/b] (profiting) [b]while subverting my masters into non-existence[/b].
You’re more than welcome to sit on your existing stash or buy more with fiat. If my way is childish, so be it. I’m a child prodigy then! =)
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[quote name=“Tuck Fheman” post=“23377” timestamp=“1374958356”]
[quote author=Markus11 link=topic=2934.msg23354#msg23354 date=1374946525]
PROOF the oposit TUCK;-)
What a childish attitude … everyone should do what he/she wants … but avoid to DUMP the coin and ruin its reputation because of … hot air and greed to get cheapies … banana?;-)
[/quote]I’m lost Markus (but I like you!). Perhaps I worded my post poorly. I don’t feel I took a shot at anyone or any coin. I spoke what I think is fact and nothing more. No FUD intended, those are my honest feelings.
I’m sorry if you don’t agree, but I have a hard time seeing anything other than profit as a driving force behind any existing coins. Perhaps the problem is we have a different opinion on “profit”?
Profit (for me personally) = Me obtaining more cryptocoins without using USD.
I have no problem with a dev or anyone profiting (in fiat) off these coins. In fact, as I’ve stated, I believe that is their sole purpose and that’s not a problem for me, I was just hoping for more. But, I’ll take what I can get since it’s still better than fiat.
In fact, as I’ve stated to Bush (or some dev), I have no problem with coins being premined by devs (I’m not saying FTC is premined, stawp) since I feel they deserve to be paid for their work. But, I do understand the philosophy behind having a problem with premines and I can fully support that position without interfering with my own. In other words, I don’t care either way.
My problem is, pretending that this isn’t about profit, when all signals indicate otherwise. Again, that’s not an issue for me personally. Profit all you want, hence why I said I will too. I’m not in this solely for profit, but I’m sure not going to turn profit down when I see an opportunity (like this one).
I don’t feel anything I’ve said has ruined the reputation of anything in any way possible, nor do I believe I possess such awesome power.
I stated my opinions and what I believe to be factual information. I don’t remember using the word “dump”, but if I did the only reason would be to reference someone else using it (see fontas) in jest.
I routinely ditch most all of a cryptocoin to purchase more at a lower price. Doesn’t everyone?!
I assumed we all picked our spots, sold off and re-bought more lower (profit).
Maybe I’m doing something wrong, but [b]I’m trying to obtain the most cryptocurrency I can[/b] (profiting) [b]while subverting my masters into non-existence[/b].
You’re more than welcome to sit on your existing stash or buy more with fiat. If my way is childish, so be it. I’m a child prodigy then! =)
[/quote]This is all about money no matter which way you turn it. I’ve treated it like a hobby but more like I occasionally dabbled in wood whittling and sell my work. I enjoy the challenges and discussions on the venture. Also, I like that I make a little doing it. I don’t really care about premine unless the developer skips town.
Until recently I hadn’t put USD to BTC. I got my coins from mining then trading. The mining part helped me understand the markets better. Kind of see whose put more into their effort of crypto. I have my stash of ftc and I then bet with the rest. Though i might start dipping into it.
We just got major hash for a bit on ftc. d2’s pool stated 30ghash and the site tracker got up to 10gh. When this happens my mining does nothing but sits there… I don’t want to goto a bigger pool but I might have to just get some return or another general coin.
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[quote name=“Tuck Fheman” post=“23377” timestamp=“1374958356”]
My problem is, pretending that this isn’t about profit, when all signals indicate otherwise. Again, that’s not an issue for me personally. Profit all you want, hence why I said I will too. I’m not in this solely for profit, but I’m sure not going to turn profit down when I see an opportunity (like this one).…
I routinely ditch most all of a cryptocoin to purchase more at a lower price. Doesn’t everyone?!
I assumed we all picked our spots, sold off and re-bought more lower (profit).
Maybe I’m doing something wrong, but [b]I’m trying to obtain the most cryptocurrency I can[/b] (profiting) [b]while subverting my masters into non-existence[/b].
You’re more than welcome to sit on your existing stash or buy more with fiat. If my way is childish, so be it. I’m a child prodigy then! =)
[/quote]Yeah, I thought the same thing too. It’s actually part of a healthy ecosystem: The price dips, the price corrects, the price soars, the price corrects. All of it driven by speculation, and here I’m being accused of speculating in a way that people don’t like so they tell me I shouldn’t be here? You can keep your coins but you can’t silence speculators. Meanwhile I’ll be buying a small island and inviting Tuck over so we can drink mojitos and feel sorry for the people who held onto their coins through the dip instead of buying low and selling high.
[move][b]It really is all about the profit. Get used to it.[/b][/move]
We’re not selling good vibes here. We’re developing a currency for the next generation that will free our children from government oppression and centralization of authority. Wait, what’s that you say? We’re centralizing the authority with the new features we’re rolling out? And you don’t want people to talk about their trading habits for fear of [u][i]you losing your own value[/i][/u]?
*facepalm*
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[quote name=“wesphily” post=“23413” timestamp=“1374986405”]
The trick with check pointing is that you don’t have to subscribe if you don’t want to. Also, the number of people agreeing on the checkpoint will keep it decentralized.Finally, PoS does not stop 51% attack. All it does is slow it down.
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Im quite excited regarding how the checkpoint will work, regarding the pure technical part of it.
Will it be evenly distributed toward third parties/distributed among many persons and such to keep it decentralized?[/s]Edit:
Actually this question has nothing to do in the unocs thread