NASA claims a collapse of industrial civilisation is likely.
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It’s an interesting read, and they have plucked out the best bits in the highlight quotes if you don’t have the time for the long read.
“… accumulated surplus is not evenly distributed throughout society, but rather has been controlled by an elite. The mass of the population, while producing the wealth, is only allocated a small portion of it by elites, usually at or just above subsistence levels.â€
“Collapse can be avoided and population can reach equilibrium if the per capita rate of depletion of nature is reduced to a sustainable level, and if resources are distributed in a reasonably equitable fashion.â€
It’s funny how we teach our kids to share and then forget to do so as adults. ;D
Thoughts?
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It only takes a few youtube clips of Fox to see the counter to this… “Its socialism, Marxism, you wanna be a communist? Its income redistribution, its punishing those who work hard, Obama wants to give hand outs to lazy ppl while you pay your taxes”
The most watched news station in America doesn’t have news, just narrow opinions said repeatedly and loudly.
All that to say, I totally see it going on. And I’d agree.
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Yeah, it’s kinda sad that any move towards being economical with resources and any improvements in sustainability are portrayed as ‘dirty socialism’. Keeping your house tidy and well maintained isn’t a part of the political spectrum IMO, it’s just something that civilised people do. Nature has a way of connecting waste outputs into inputs and we have split them all up into individual systems miles apart and it depletes one area and gives another one a waste problem.
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Interesting read. What would a collapse look like in the modern era?
This is why I am going to educate my kids, get them interested in renewable energy, growing food and how to protect themselves. I’m not saying i’m going to go all “survivalist” and tell them the world is going to end, but knowing how to do these things might help in the future, then again maybe not.
It sure does feel like we are coming to an end of the cycle.
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I think we are seeing it now. The largest nations are holding back their own collapse at the expense of smaller less industrialised nations who are cash strapped and who’s government will gladly rape their surroundings.
Ultimately any system reliant on finite resources are non-sustainable and where those finite resources are used for the production of basic human requirements we have the potential for trouble.
Our industrialised systems for the manufacture of basics like food are all fossil fuel dependant, we use gas in the manufacture of fertiliser and oil to fuel the mechanisation of farm machinery. The current push hasn’t been to find new systems which are less dependant, it’s to amalgamate the industry into larger industrial systems to make them more efficient resulting in all our eggs being in one basket.
Clinging hold of something which cannot last is foolish. They are in denial because their current system is too big to fail.
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and here we all are wasting lots of power on virtual money… might as well lock up shop.
Crypto will take off, then we will be able to buy up all the assets and be ready for when the collapse really happens in about 10 years time :-)
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and here we all are wasting lots of power on virtual money… might as well lock up shop.
We waste lots of power on real money too.
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The original paper is here, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800914000615
I don’t think much of it. These are the kinds of papers that use computational models to state the obvious, just to support what common sense gives to every sane thinker. But it is good that NASA subscribed to the alarm bell that was earlier already sounded by Oxford FHI.
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Spam don’t click the links…
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I don’t think much of it. These are the kinds of papers that use computational models to state the obvious, just to support what common sense gives to every sane thinker. But it is good that NASA subscribed to the alarm bell that was earlier already sounded by Oxford FHI.
QFT
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