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“Doesn’t mean someone needs to create a new coin, but rather encourage more strenght in BTC worldwide.”
Free market guy, it’s obvious we’re going to see the world a bit differently.
“It doesn’t mean”
You’re right, it means let the market decide on the direction they want to head. I heard the same thing when I got involved with Linux in the 90s. “We” don’t need another version of Linux, we have X. Thankfully that group became the ‘hardcore’ and Linux flourished from competition and incremental changes/ideas.
We welcome you to the community. Rather than trying to convince you, I’ll just recommend look around and do some reading on why so many people spend time here. If you find a project that interests you, fantastic, we’re always looking for new faces around here.
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[quote name=“kelsey” post=“12954” timestamp=“1370952662”]
[quote author=spynappels link=topic=1596.msg12914#msg12914 date=1370946484]
I suggest you take a look at the multiple fronts this community and the developers are working on, it soon becomes evident that FTC is not content with being an also ran clone, but is pushing hard in areas like Merchant adoption (creating a shopping cart, contacting merchants and exchanges and online auction solution similar to Ebay which uses FTC) and developing solutions to issues affecting cryptocurrencies in general like wild difficulty swings, 51% attacks etc with a view to developing mitigation strategies that can be used by other cryptocurrencies too.We refuse to become a Pump and Dump footnote in Crypto history.
[/quote]Exactly what every other alt coin is saying and doing… ::)
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Not quite, AFAIK no other coin has taken steps to reduce the maximum change in difficulty and increase the number of changes in a given time frame to reduce wild swings in difficulty, Bushstar has.
No other coin has created a specific testbed on which to model how changes made to the protocols and new features would affect the coin, the community here has (Leathercoin).
Very few coins have had the community rally and mine at a loss to the same extent to ensure it’s survival as this community has done.We do not intend to threaten other cryptocurrencies, but neither will be feel we cannot make improvements and take a new direction to help FTC grow and mature, just because other people don’t like it.
Everyone has a choice, join in or don’t. If people do, that’s great. If they don’t, that’s also fine. The continued negativity against Feathercoin has not deterred the community to date, and will not do so in the future.
Like I said, we will not allow Feathercoin to become a Pump and Dump footnote in Crypto history. Those who want to help us to this goal, feel free to pitch in. Those who don’t, we can take the sniping, no problem.
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::) ??? ???
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welcome!
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[quote name=“kelsey” post=“12932” timestamp=“1370949655”]
[quote author=iawgoM link=topic=1595.msg12927#msg12927 date=1370949202]
Hi kelsey, and welcome!Your question is completely legit, and it’s good that people ask that question openly and get honest answers back.
Could you and the others please continue this discussion on the other topic you’ve opened with the same quiestion: http://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?topic=1596.0;topicseen
Thank you.
[/quote]Hi and thanks for the welcome. Yes my questioning is legit and not just trolling, starting to be 101 spam coins out there so questioning any coins existence should be welcomed by honest attempts.
[/quote]Yes. Check out our team pages to see what we’re up to. Looking for a few mathgeeks, but anyone with a good spirit is welcome to add.
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I think if we were just spamming and trying to get attention, we wouldn’t be working so freak’n hard on this all the time. I’m trying to populate a wiki with info, some others started a marketplace, and some of the others are making graphics, tutorials, videos, and who knows what else.
This currency has a lot of support and is quickly gaining a following, which consequently gives it value. At least to those that are in the scene, anyways. We’re working our tails off in our spare time to make sure it’s easy to use, fun, and has a good economy around it.
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[quote name=“kelsey” post=“12879” timestamp=“1370942386”]
Been in btc awhile and I’ve been no fan of ftc, but I’ll give you guys a chance.
Why does or should FTC even exist?
[/quote]I have to admit, I’m somewhat confused. Every post you’ve made so far it relating to why FTC should exist (which as a free market guy is like nails on a chalkboard) except one post. That one post was for 10 free Feathercoin from me.
So while I appreciate you giving me ‘a chance’, I have work to do as do most of the community here. Please let me know if I can assist you with a question that hasn’t been explained over and over again.
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You posted the exact same question in the Newbie section. Spamming content is against our code of conduct. Thank you.
http://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?topic=466.msg3246#msg3246
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[quote author=kelsey link=topic=1595.msg12879#msg12879 date=1370942386]
Been in btc awhile and I’ve been no fan of ftc, but I’ll give you guys a chance.
Why does or should FTC even exist?
[/quote]I have to admit, I’m somewhat confused. Every post you’ve made so far it relating to why FTC should exist (which as a free market guy is like nails on a chalkboard) except one post. That one post was for 10 free Feathercoin from me.
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Seriously I have been on the attack against ftc, ltc and all the alts, seeing some supports and communities form around certain alts, could mean perhaps a few aren’t just pump and dump quick rich schemes.
I’d had never tested ftc (although have looked at source etc on git), so now I am looking at it properly (hence needing to play with a few coins).
There is a core group of btc users who’ve been around awhile, that are not fans for various reasons of all these new alts. Too many get rich quick schemes could tarish btc.
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100s of versions of Linux… I was right in the middle of it in the 90s. If anything, different versions doing their own thing (no matter how major or minor) ultimately helped get us where we are today in that community.
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You don’t see a good purpose for alternate versions of btc? I think btc, ltc and ftc make perfect sense. Gold, silver and bronze. The more alternatives there are for people to move back and forth, the more comfort people have to hedge their bets. I would think, as a btc guy, you would be for less hegemony in the cryptocurrency arena. Let the coin live or die based on its attractiveness in the market, not by the spite of people who are afraid of competition. I know, “This is the free market”, but seriously, why are you doing your robber baron attacks?
[/quote]well BTC is its own gold silver and bronze.
its nuthing to do with being afraid of competition, its more about alt/joke coins making a joke of cryptocurrency and by doing so spoiling btc broader acceptance. -
FTC is anything but a joke crypocurrency, in fact one on the biggest pushes is for feathercoin to be accepted by merchants for goods and service. We have also set up a market to trade feathercoins for real world items. We are doing our best to get the word out that cryptocurrency can be a good and easy way to do business. This can only help to strengthen BTC in the long term. I, as I’m sure a lot of member of this community here have a lot of respect for BTC and its community, and I want BTC, and all other legitimate crypto currencies to be a success just as much as we want FTC to be a success. Together we find strength, not fighting one another on who is better.
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The only people spoiling BTC broader acceptance is:
- BTC developers have their own little cave where they work
- BTC developers bending over to authorities as well as exchanges
- BTC community not improving any of the details of the coin so that people can adapt to the REAL WORLD.
- BTC community being hostile to anyone who does wish to either add to or compete
Broader acceptance comes from trusting the crypto market, not the product. People buy Ford and Dodge because they need cars, not because they need Ford and Dodge. You will not get broader acceptance if there is only once choice. People do not buy Whoppers. They buy burgers. They don’t want the yellow and red clown at their table. They want food.
People want the product not the brand name. The brand name comes later.
It’s true that the alt coin frenzy caused people to question crypto. But half of the bad alt coins were made by people who hate alts. They have only themselves to blame by their own immature behavior.
I can also guarantee you that DDoS on FTC makes BTC and LTC look much worse. Even if people are scared away from FTC, they will be very disgusted with BTC and LTC dictators behaving like 12 year olds.People want the comfort to choose. They will not choose BTC if it’s the only option. They will wait until they can get the red car with the fuzzy dice and sunroof.
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[quote name=“kelsey” post=“12879” timestamp=“1370942386”]
Been in btc awhile and I’ve been no fan of ftc, but I’ll give you guys a chance.
Why does or should FTC even exist?
[/quote]Because the BTC crew said it best, Bitcoin will be for saving, buying a house, buying a car or any other large purchase.
Another coin (perhaps LTC) can serve for smaller transactions like buying a television, washer & dryer, etc.
And yet another coin for micro-transactions (the majority) for day-to-day purchases … coffee, cigarettes, lap dances, the usual stuff.
Why? Why not just use fractions of BTC for payment like the old days?
Because new users and merchants don’t want to deal with fractions, they want to deal with whole numbers (wait someone else said this recently).
And this is where Feathercoin comes in.
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I personally think everyone will switch from BTC to LTC when they realize just how awful it is for mining when the ASICs get delivered in wider production.
Then, people will switch to FTC because it’s got great development and will be/is easier to get into. In my opinion, SHA-256 should go extinct eventually. They better :P
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This is by no means an insult, simply an observation. Is it fair to assume you didn’t grow up around open source software or free market principles? If so, that’s where you and I will have a real difficult time seeing eye to eye. Regardless, welcome to the site.
Personally, I wish we as a community can avoid ‘tired’ words such as:
- Scam coin
- Joke coin
Again, just my opinion. It reminds me when I’m sitting next to some kid in a hoodie, sunglasses and headphones at the poker table listening to his endless rant about the ‘fish’ and the ‘donkeys’. It offers nothing more than a lazy swipe.
Not quite sure where this generation either forgot about or never quite understood the idea behind open software and community involvement.
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[quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“13668” timestamp=“1371045868”]
This is by no means an insult, simply an observation. Is it fair to assume you didn’t grow up around open source software or free market principles? If so, that’s where you and I will have a real difficult time seeing eye to eye. Regardless, welcome to the site.Personally, I wish we as a community can avoid ‘tired’ words such as:
- Scam coin
- Joke coin
Again, just my opinion. It reminds me when I’m sitting next to some kid in a hoodie, sunglasses and headphones at the poker table listening to his endless rant about the ‘fish’ and the ‘donkeys’. It offers nothing more than a lazy swipe.
Not quite sure where this generation either forgot about or never quite understood the idea behind open software and community involvement.
[/quote]In the end the whole conversation is about having a conversation. Does this community want to have and continue to have intelligent meaningful debate or degrade into snides or swipes. It’s something I also see as a differentiation of this community from others, acceptable behavior. I’ve seen people apologize on this forum regularly. Apologize on an internet forum?? :o
Solutions and the future can only come about with proper discourse and no epeen waving. I’m all for intelligent discussion though I am 1/4 troll. 8)
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[quote name=“jeremiel” post=“13711” timestamp=“1371050608”]…I’m all for intelligent discussion though I am 1/4 troll. 8)[/quote]
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[quote author=jeremiel link=topic=1595.msg13711#msg13711 date=1371050608]…I’m all for intelligent discussion though I am 1/4 troll. 8)[/quote][img]http://memecrunch.com/meme/4O13/crowd-troll/image.png[/img]
[/quote]no… noo… My mommy was an angel and my daddy was half troll.
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guess the lack of ability to answer my simple question ages back has got you to this point.
panic change algos, reinvent yourself…do this over and over again and you are doing nothing more then setting yourself up for more downtrend…my guess next something like being real dumbass and going pos?
not the enemy here sometimes though it pays to be brutally honest, you know you guys even had some of the stage for awhile? early on you had more exposure then so many coins dream about…what did you do with it?
