HAHAHAH
feed me moar!
HAHAHAH
feed me moar!
[quote name=“sl1982” post=“16244” timestamp=“1371582813”]
It seems your big issue is that changes to the coin are being released after the coin was made public not before. I ask what does it matter when things are implemented?
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no, not at all. I just asked for clarification on his linux analogy.
[quote name=“spynappels” post=“16241” timestamp=“1371582732”]
@randomdef: You also did not answer a question asked of you in this thread [url=http://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?topic=1857.30]http://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?topic=1857.30[/url] about what constructive changes you would make to reward miners.
It may be difficult to accept that others find this scam/copy/theft/crap coin has value, but hey, PT Barnum said there was one born every minute. Aren’t you glad you’re not one of them?
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I actually did, before you asked. Feel free to go back through my posts.
You guys are WIZARDS at evading direct questions, shifting left and right, but that elephant remains.
[quote name=“zerodrama” post=“16221” timestamp=“1371578062”]
[quote author=randomdef link=topic=1992.msg16171#msg16171 date=1371568153]
You are right, I am confused. Could you please point out one, just one, app (windows, linux, osx, os/2, freebsd, anything) that had 6-10 lines of code changed, with the author then contending that the app was new and different and re branded it, AND then the community accepted it?
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Those are not 6-10 lines. They are 6-10 SETTINGS. Huge difference. In the real world those settings make a coin entirely incompatible with another.
I don’t comprehend this superficial idealism for new, new, new. It’s on the Internet. The Internet is not a supermarket. It is a workshop.
If someone wants to work on something, they have to start with something that is close to what they want to do. That means they have to use stuff that’s already out there. Clearly, Bushstar did not want to work alone on it, there OMFGWTFBBQ, he had to release it BEFORE it was so PRECIOUSLY,
[move][size=18pt][tt][glow=yellow,2,300][shadow=red,left]NEW, NEW, NEW, NEW, NEW, NEW, NEW, NEW, NEW, NEW, NEW, NEW![/shadow][/glow][/tt][/size][/move]
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More evading the question, but now with animated gif’s!
[quote name=“Kevlar” post=“16194” timestamp=“1371571187”]
Ladies, ladies… PLEASE! You’re both beautiful.
No, the question isn’t too difficult, it’s one that’s been addressed already: It doesn’t matter in the slightest if the foundation code for all these coins is the same, as long as what is built on top adds value.
You’re making a straw man argument, and it’s not going to get you the answer your looking for.
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Not at all! I was just following up with his analogy and requesting clarification.
It’s a conversation right up until I ask questions that no one has a great (or even subpar, or any at all) answer for, then I am a witless troll because he lacks answers.
[quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“16173” timestamp=“1371568781”]
[quote author=randomdef link=topic=1992.msg16171#msg16171 date=1371568153]
[quote author=justabitoftime link=topic=1992.msg16167#msg16167 date=1371567903]
[quote author=randomdef link=topic=1992.msg16154#msg16154 date=1371565143]
[quote author=justabitoftime link=topic=1992.msg16093#msg16093 date=1371532063]
100s of Linux distributions, small incremental changes and experimentation helped it evolve. Certain Linux flavors gained more success than others by the services and support that surrounded the distribution.
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Excellent example. When was the last time an app had 2-6 lines of code changed and then branded as new and spectacular? none, ever. Why? because of the community would have laughed you out the door as a thief and an idiot who brought nothing new to the table. So changing 6 lines of code for feathercoin, and you are surprised by the backlash?
Had the feathercoin client brought something new to the table and amazing, the backlash would not be there.
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You are confused, others have tried to help you. You are either struggling to understand it or intentionally trying to avoid it. Feel free to reference Spynappels’s post for further clarification. Enjoy.
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You are right, I am confused. Could you please point out one, just one, app (windows, linux, osx, os/2, freebsd, anything) that had 6-10 lines of code changed, with the author then contending that the app was new and different and re branded it, AND then the community accepted it?
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“community accepted it?”
At least 1700 people say you’re wrong, ooops. :) I’m just happy you’ve stopped the personal attacks against the other members. If you want to spend your day talking about why you DON’T support something, that’s fine.
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Was my question too difficult that you felt the need to evade it, again? or was it you just don’t have an answer?
[quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“16167” timestamp=“1371567903”]
[quote author=randomdef link=topic=1992.msg16154#msg16154 date=1371565143]
[quote author=justabitoftime link=topic=1992.msg16093#msg16093 date=1371532063]
100s of Linux distributions, small incremental changes and experimentation helped it evolve. Certain Linux flavors gained more success than others by the services and support that surrounded the distribution.
[/quote]
Excellent example. When was the last time an app had 2-6 lines of code changed and then branded as new and spectacular? none, ever. Why? because of the community would have laughed you out the door as a thief and an idiot who brought nothing new to the table. So changing 6 lines of code for feathercoin, and you are surprised by the backlash?
Had the feathercoin client brought something new to the table and amazing, the backlash would not be there.
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You are confused, others have tried to help you. You are either struggling to understand it or intentionally trying to avoid it. Feel free to reference Spynappels’s post for further clarification. Enjoy.
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You are right, I am confused. Could you please point out one, just one, app (windows, linux, osx, os/2, freebsd, anything) that had 6-10 lines of code changed, with the author then contending that the app was new and different and re branded it, AND then the community accepted it?
[quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“16093” timestamp=“1371532063”]
100s of Linux distributions, small incremental changes and experimentation helped it evolve. Certain Linux flavors gained more success than others by the services and support that surrounded the distribution.
[/quote]
Excellent example. When was the last time an app had 2-6 lines of code changed and then branded as new and spectacular? none, ever. Why? because of the community would have laughed you out the door as a thief and an idiot who brought nothing new to the table. So changing 6 lines of code for feathercoin, and you are surprised by the backlash?
Had the feathercoin client brought something new to the table and amazing, the backlash would not be there.
[quote name=“chrisj” post=“16038” timestamp=“1371511535”]
I feel it’s important to be realistic here. I am not talking Brazil, which is experiencing a lot of protests at the time of writing. I am not even talking Turkey whose recent protests have been much more violent. But maybe somewhere like Scotland?
It’s important to start small. We can think about China later.
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Why would they use feathercoin? Why not just clone the LTC source and start a new chain called ScotlandCoin and claim its very very different than all the others?
[quote name=“Smoothie” post=“16091” timestamp=“1371531447”]
[quote author=randomdef link=topic=1992.msg16088#msg16088 date=1371531299]
[quote author=justabitoftime link=topic=1992.msg16081#msg16081 date=1371529392]
[quote author=randomdef link=topic=1992.msg16079#msg16079 date=1371528989]
does that make your begging any less pathetic?
not really, but if being pathetic once was good enough for LTC! then being sad and pathetic twice is what FTC was cloned to do!
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So this is what the kids call trolling eh?
‘Neat-o’
No-one is this oblivious to the idea of grassroots.
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It isnt trolling. FTC is a LTC clone, fact. You all stated that you don’t mind the FTC chat and pump because LTC did it.
That’s cool with me, but you can’t say its cool because LTC did it without really hitting home the fact that the entire code base is a carbon copy, WHICH ISNT A BAD THING. You are all very sensitive when you are called out on the truth.
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I dont see anyone denying the facts you stated. Link?
Also to add to that, how much different is Litecoin really from the Bitcoin source? Seriously? That argument is like saying it is okay that Litecoin basically copied bitcoin, but it isn’t as okay for Feathercoin to copy the litecoin code base.
Can’t have it both ways. This is likely my only gripe with the argument. If the logic is copying is bad, then Litecoin is really no different in [i][b][u]principle [/u][/b][/i]from Feathercoin.
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I don’t deny litecoin isn’t any better than bitcoin BUT the discussion was on the #2 status, not the king daddy. Copies of copies and no one can says which is better than which, unless you are holding a very large bag.
[quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“16081” timestamp=“1371529392”]
[quote author=randomdef link=topic=1992.msg16079#msg16079 date=1371528989]
does that make your begging any less pathetic?
not really, but if being pathetic once was good enough for LTC! then being sad and pathetic twice is what FTC was cloned to do!
[/quote]
So this is what the kids call trolling eh?
‘Neat-o’
No-one is this oblivious to the idea of grassroots.
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It isnt trolling. FTC is a LTC clone, fact. You all stated that you don’t mind the FTC chat and pump because LTC did it.
That’s cool with me, but you can’t say its cool because LTC did it without really hitting home the fact that the entire code base is a carbon copy, WHICH ISNT A BAD THING. You are all very sensitive when you are called out on the truth.
does that make your begging any less pathetic?
not really, but if being pathetic once was good enough for LTC! then being sad and pathetic twice is what FTC was cloned to do!
to be fair thought, LTC ISNT asking anyone to vote, and it’s kicking FTC’s bumm.
I am very impressed with the stability of the network in terms of the difficulty. I know that a lot of thought went into the decision and I’m glad to see it has worked out.
Thank you!
[quote name=“ksty1098” post=“15831” timestamp=“1371434429”]
I’m currently wondering whether to start a feather coin farm. I see this skyrocketing in the future, and you know the sooner the better. Though I currently don’t have the cash to start a farm by myself so I’m wondering if there is enough community interest to start a feather coin farm. It could start somewhat small about 4-5mhash/s. Though that would grow as funds would be reinvested into the pool creating a higher hash rate. Start up cash I would need would be about 5,000 USD, to get a 4-5 mhash/s farm. Electricity in my area is cheap arounf 7 cents per kwatthour. I think I could start with 500 shares at 250 per share. Any though thoughts?
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I like the idea but without a reputation and a solid backing, no one will invest in YOU or your farm.
[quote name=“serraz” post=“15253” timestamp=“1371295962”]
[quote author=serraz link=topic=1304.msg15112#msg15112 date=1371252670]
And now you are posting in here. Im not sure if this is an attempt to get miners to your pool or what (not assuming anything). There is an email address to contact the pool owners. if there are issus how about you report them to the correct people rathern the bash pools and people on a forum.
Very disapointed. i expected better.
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Why are the pool fee’s still jacked?
[quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“15578” timestamp=“1371361924”]
You just like to start trouble. :) When you start in with personal attacks with other members, [b]** I’m ** [/b] the one who’s the first to grant yet another chance. So let’s not be coy here.
[b]I’m done arguing with you personally[/b]. I’m not done trying to assist the miner. It’s not paranoi, I’m just burnt… your name comes across my PM nearly every single day. If you want to discuss this further, please PM me.
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[b]To the miners,[/b]
Please feel free to message me and give ideas. Maybe we can get community chip-ins on miner specific contests. Maybe we can have miner membership drives where you see rewards on a tiered basis. I don’t know… I trust you’ll come up with some great ideas,and I’ll be here to assist you.
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So direct questions are personal attacks?
Well, pardon me.
[quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“15576” timestamp=“1371360740”]
Great, let me assist you. I’ve given away over 7000 coins (that’s not counting donations) and digging into my own pocket and givng away $1000… let me say it again, $1000 I could be using on my family to give to the community. If I can find yet more money, I will. I donate as much as a possibly can… I don’t have a magic stash, my #$#@ is running to btc-e like everyone else.
In fact, I have a category specifically for miners:
http://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?topic=1392.0
If you want to troll, save it for BTC-e my friend. :) I’m now done with this conversation.
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again, this was NOT the question.
You are asking for suggestions for retaining long term miners. You have to put something forward as a reward to for those that are reward minded. NO ONE is going to offer a reward to themselves. So, what do you propose to give to the miners if not a bounty from your own wallet?
You are so very paranoid.
[quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“15548” timestamp=“1371354119”]
[quote author=randomdef link=topic=1857.msg15547#msg15547 date=1371353355]
[quote author=justabitoftime link=topic=1857.msg15512#msg15512 date=1371345423]
With LTC nose diving, we’ll getting more waves of miners on the difficulty changes. We are committed to taking care of long-term miners, we’re open to suggestions on how to track and encourage pools to reward.
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Difficult to have those discussions when you don’t give an idea of what you can reward with?
I don’t think its any secret that Bushstar and maybe yourself have alot in the coffers (from being early adopters or even and pre-mine)
So what are you willing to give out? How do YOU want to reward. Most users on here are miners, I don’t think we wish to reward ourselves
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Incorrect.
1. Please see the sticky on the in the main forum called Feathercoin myths. I created a video just for you to save me time. :)
June 13th
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT8V98NxjLk (Credit: JustaBitofTime)
http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t467/TuckFheman/FTCnotpremined_zps1e801843.jpg (Credit: Tuck Fheman)
I’ll now expect better of you in the future since you know the truth… no excuse anymore.
2. I’m building my first rig this weekend, never mined a day in my life. I bought from people like Cyberdyne and XorXor at 14 LTC / 1000 and then quickly to 19 on Bitcointalk. All that’s documented and verifiable.
[b]It’s just hard for some to understand grassroots.[/b] I was the guy painting Ron Paul sign on the weekend and being ‘moved along’ when I was sign waving them. I organized massive meetups / projects and didn’t see 1 cent.
Nice try. :)
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You took great offence and evaded the direct question.
*slow golf clap*
[quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“15512” timestamp=“1371345423”]
With LTC nose diving, we’ll getting more waves of miners on the difficulty changes. We are committed to taking care of long-term miners, we’re open to suggestions on how to track and encourage pools to reward.
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Difficult to have those discussions when you don’t give an idea of what you can reward with?
I don’t think its any secret that Bushstar and maybe yourself have alot in the coffers (from being early adopters or even and pre-mine)
So what are you willing to give out? How do YOU want to reward. Most users on here are miners, I don’t think we wish to reward ourselves